Bartlein barrels vs krieger barrels review forum Once you get to Bartlein, Hart, Hawk Hill, etc they're splitting RCH's in performance and it's not brand to brand, it's "install job to install job" and the biggest issue is when a guy cuts corners and gets a shitbird to install it. This test is to see if there is any measurable, noticeable difference between a 308win Bartlein 5R or Krieger 4 Groove for the average shooter, shooting the way 99% of the people on THIS forum shoot. 0455"). 750" GB. I know the ammo is capable of that in an ideal situation, but 4 MOA from it is a bit of a head scratcher when others with the same rifle (SAI Loaded's and National Matches) are shooting it in the 2-2. Oct 4, 2022 · Most M14 gunsmiths only want to do final chamber reaming, sometimes with a pull-through reamer. and that doesnt add anything to your thread our answer your question? Feb 28, 2011 · Both make great barrels. It's a 16" 1:7 twist, cut rifled 5R stainless steel mid-length. May 19, 2020 · Got the Bartlein screwed on early this morning for the 3rd barrel in this RimX review and headed to the range. Mar 10, 2020 · need few new barrels for rifles ive personally never heard much about these guys what are your thoughts? im staying away from carbon at the moment due to hunts closing in and cost. 5", the other is 11. Select one or two if it was up to you. Apr 17, 2020 · This Krieger just barely edged out the Bartlein by 0. in response to demands of rifle builders and firearms manufacturers for quality match grade barrels at a lower cost. However, my Bartlein stay accurate longer and clean much easier, and I feel a lot more confident with the Barltein barrels. Our company is now completely independent from Krieger Barrels, featuring a separate facility, personnel, and ownership. I would consider Lilja a premium top shelf barrel but no better than Hart, Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Broughton, and Benchmark just to name a few. tell Karen what u want, ask her for info. I've had good barrels from most all of the top manufacturers but have had better luck overall with cut rifled barrels. 5 cm in a Mega MATEN LR-308 rifle. 5 CM. Or 4 vs 5r Krieger. Have several Bartlein but never tried a Brux. If price is what is steering you toward these two barrel makers I would save a little more money, its not that big of difference. Of the top four F-Open shooters at the Nationals this year, at least two shot Brux barrels. I was hoping for some feedback on the ones listed above. Almost the same as a button barrel except when the button barrel won’t shoot too well they don’t blame the Rifling. I have and will continue to use both. Final chamber polishing is important given the rotating M1/M14 bolt extraction process requires a smooth chamber, and this seems to be a non-trivial problem for new barrels, including my last Krieger heavy SS barrel. Hawk Hill Custom - Hawk Hill Custom These barrels win matches. 5 unless you specifically order a different twist rate If you want to see the difference of all of these difference barrels see my RimX review thread. 9% of the time. I’ve only ever had 1 barrel in 6. To Sheldon N's point - For PRS, skill dwarfs the subtle differences in barrels 99. Jan 25, 2021 · I've owned several button barrels and a few cut rifled barrels from K&P, Bartlein, Brux and Krieger. To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50yd results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50yd results equal (. Jun 27, 2020 · Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50-yard results equal (. Also, some shops selling barrels AND pre-fits only handle Tier 1 barrels , "bugholes"being one. If the choice was mine I would hands down go with Bartlein Javascript is required. The lapped-in barrels (Krieger and Douglas) MIGHT shoot good longer and clean easier. Aug 23, 2009 · I am sure Paul Craddock is as well, but put many months in your timeline, or buy a Criterion or Lilja barrel that is pre fitted for what you want. Both clean up very well and the Krieger is 25' faster, but again, has a melonited barrel. 003" with a 0. Dec 25, 2023 · Save money when chambering multiple barrels at a time. 219 bore. 308. Mar 5, 2011 · Hart barrels rock, my last 2 Harts were stunningly repeatable. Still most of the muzzlebrakes and silencers are threaded for 5/8, i think i will have to ask all these details to the barrel manufacturer. After doing a lot of reading on the various forums, I have come to the conclusion that the LaRue is considered one of the most accurate of the cheaper barrels (especially while they are on sale) while the Bartlein or Krieger are considered two of Dec 15, 2020 · I have a custom 7mm WSM that I will be installing a new barrel on. 198". It may have been the one bad barrel out of a thousand but that was their one shot with me. I have purchased WOA $225 service rifle barrels that stacked ten rounds just over a half inch at 100 yards. Thanks guys Oct 28, 2023 · I read it, thanks. I use both brands interchangeably. Given how #3s shoot sustained, in my experience they make for great precision/hunters. @Frank Green this 22LR Bartlein blank you sent me for this RimX review and testing is the 3rd barrel tested in this review so far. Any thoughts are much appreciated! Mar 15, 2010 · Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. GAP has Bartlein CF barrels in 1/7. By cut-rifling them, they take one groove at a time. I've got two Krieger's and one Rock and all of them have been shooters. Sep 8, 2023 · The reason they are and the reason top smiths are chambering those barrels are because they are exceptionally made barrels. Criterion it will be now, I'll see how it shoots long as some Krieger rubs off on it, I can't go wrong. I like Krieger, but have moved to Bartlein. 5x more expensive than the Criterion (called Krieger and they quoted ~$575 including Jun 13, 2008 · The question that first comes to mind is why you have an issue with 5r rifling. The Bartlein #3 is the next slightly heavier profile throughout. Both Craddock and Compass Lake use top of the line blanks: Krieger, Bartlein, Douglas, Criterion (for the most part). Ks arms is the barrel of choice for team Canada f-class. Some wont even chamber one and vice versa. Preferred turnaround time Includes chamber, muzzle threads, and bead blasting. Aug 23, 2009 · I am going to order my barrel from Compass Lake Engineering but can't decide between the Bartlein and Krieger brand. My experience has been the cut rifled barrels are easier to find a load for and also tend to shoot multiple bullets/loads better across the board than button barrels do. Talking to competitors and their thoughts on the barrel they have shot in competition and how the barrels behaved in the wind and different conditions compared to other barrels they have used. Dec 5, 2017 · But those that understand the process realize you're 10 times as likely to screw up putting the a **** near perfect barrel on a morbidly out of spec action, screw up a bed job, or ream a poorly concentric chamber than you are to get a bad barrel from any of the top 5 to 10 barrel manufacturers. Krieger, Hart, Shillen, proof, benchmark, Brux Dec 27, 2017 · I've had real good luck with Krieger and Lilja. Jul 13, 2013 · Seems like a Bartlein 2B or even #3 is pretty close in weight to a Proof Sendero. I currently have seven Brux barrels with two more on order. If you have a barrel maker that understands the limitations for each process, and has a method for mitigating the impact of those limitations on the barrel quality, then their products should be just fine. The best lots of CX werent far behind either. 224 cal it's that much better than the competition. 350 MTU 31" $350 SOLD #11- Rock 7mm 9tw SS 5R SS MTU 30" (this is an early 2000s barrel) $350 Feb 11, 2023 · The Bartlein #2b begins like a magnum profile but tapers to . Oct 21, 2013 · I never tested a Shilen in this round up review as you stated above. I own several and all are outstanding accurate and easy to clean barrels. PHENOMENAL! Jun 6, 2019 · Bartlein barrels are top notch barrels. I had a bunch of people asking me to do a side by side, all else being equal test Jan 21, 2020 · Krieger is first because they are the most prolific 4-groove with my vendors. Some of these are not spun up yet, most are. I have looked at Krieger and Bartlein and came across Feb 7, 2011 · Re: difference between bartlein and ER shaw Generally speaking, Bartlein barrels are considered top tier barrels and ER Shaw are high mid grade. The proof has 1. Now for the most part these were just personal opinions , but repete usage says a lot. Re: Hart, Kreiger or Bartlein? I have all three, all in . Dec 15, 2024 · Krieger Barrels: Krieger barrels, while also using button rifling, often incorporate more hand-finishing and attention to detail. 25" twist) from their first run of M-14 tubes. I shoot with 4 guys running there barrels, and I own 4 of them as well (1 unchambered currently/rimfire barrel) and they have been some of the best barrels I’ve ever seen. Not trying to poke at Benchmark, Hart, Shilen etc What we have found along with a host of other shooters etcis that the consistency from barrel to Oct 21, 2013 · If I go with the CLE option, the barrel will be put into a LaRue Stealth MLOK upper/handguard set with JP FMOS, Seekins Lower with Vltor A5. 5mm bartlein 5r both are m24 profile. I don’t shot well enough to tell the difference I’d like to pick up a thinner 308 bore to use as a hunting barrel and it would just be who’s in stock when i go looking. Proof Sendero light vs # 3 Bartlein is maybe 5 oz lighter? Feb 11, 2024 · Bartlein, Hawk Hill, White Oak Armament, X-Caliber and Ballistic Advantage. Ready to order another in 30/9T for a 300 NM improved or 300 PRC build. If you end up with a few good shooting barrels It does give you some options. You won't get a better quality or more accurate barrel. thanks in advance. If no one has what I want in Krieger then I will go Brux. Jun 6, 2019 · I know I have a Bartlein and a Kreiger for my Surgeon. Sep 23, 2021 · This also holds true for the other manufacturers like Krieger and Bartlein, although Bartlein has don a great job of getting out in front of the end user and sending large quantities of rimfire barrels to European manufacturers. 046 (minimum on RimX is 0. I know of a few barrel manufactures who have stepped their game up in the last couple years and seem to be producing better results. These days I think you are pretty safe buying what's available from any of the top barrel manufacturers. Brayden Aug 22, 2012 · 65BR - Howdy ! There's an embarassement of riches, as regards barrel choices for today's shooters. Now i just have to decide between Krieger and Bartlein. But obviously, Rock, Bartlein, Brux, Krieger, and Obermeyer, would all be great choices. 177" 6x5 with SK Rifle Match! The 10x5 was 0. Mar 26, 2022 · MW barrels shoot lights fucking out. I am especially interested in a cut-rifled barrel for the utmost in accuracy potential. My preference is for Bartlein, but that's more because I can randomly harass Frank G on this forum and get a response. Feb 19, 2021 · Simply put, no barrel is going to shoot junk ammo into tiny little groups. 56 barrels as well as the CLE Bartlein/Krieger barrels. Going with a known top-level barrel maker, like Krieger or Bartlein, makes more sense in this scenario. Good ammo is more important than which badge on the barrel. Aug 21, 2012 · AR spacegun or varmint rig, get the Krieger barrel. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. That said, I've owned some fantastic shooting Bartlein 5R barrels and I would buy more Bartlein if my vendors had more choices in 4-groove. Mar 27, 2018 · A Brux barrel set the new BR record at 1k and one set a 600yd BR record last year. Between Douglas and Bartlein my first choice is Barltein. 5x more expensive than the Criterion (called Krieger and they quoted ~$575 including shipping vs LRB's Criterion of $379). One each of 1in12, 1in11 and 1in10 twist. was founded in 1999 as a division of Krieger Barrels, Inc. Some specific questions I have are: LMT 16” stainless barrel accuracy Nov 30, 2016 · With that being said 99% of shooters couldn't tell the difference if you gave them a rifle with a button barrel from Hart, Broughton, Benchmark, etc. They were also very nice when i ordered a barrel and delivery was under ETA. That should give you your answer. Krieger have typically run the fastest per caliber for me, but Bartlein and Hawk Hill have always been good barrels. No particular reason other than I hear raves about Bartlein and they are doing well in shortrange benchrest. Krieger barrels on several R700 bolt guns in . Having said all that, I personally am a fan of either Krieger or Bartlein. Nickle also increases barrel operating temperatureso why doesn't the military use it? Blame that on the military industrial complex of lining pockets and replaceable vs better. Customer service rating is 100% satisfied, I talked to Chris when ordering barrels and got my order exactly as specified and in all three cases was shocked to get my barrel in earlier than quoted, one custom barrel took one week !! May 31, 2013 · Bartlein uses a 5 groove in their 22RF blank, Krieger uses 6 groove, Benchmark uses 2 and 3 groove, Lilja uses 3 groove, and Green Mountain's are 6 groove. If I felt the need for that level of accuracy potential in a 10/22, I wouldn't hesitate to but a Bartlein barrel. That is how I chose. Nov 20, 2008 · It was . Dave Yeah I’ve got a 6mm krieger 4 grove and 6. But the break in holes at 100 yards were little clusters so it already shows a lot of promise Also had great luck with Krieger and Brux cut rifle barrels, but no experience with Bartlein yet. As one of the posters above stated, the 5. Or a Lilja or Krieger barrel, for that matter. 236 and . BR is the benchmark for accuracy IMO and 600/1000yd Benchrest is the closest benchmark to us as LR hunters. Consistent sub MOA all day long for 5 shot groups. I've had barrels from Bartlein, Bartlein, Bartlein, and Bartlein (Anyone see a trend) With that said my next chambered barrel will be a Bartlein, but the one after that will come from Hawk Hill Custom Rifles. Both are 1-7 Bartlien blanks, both chambered and profiled by Compass Lake with their CLE chamber. 6 instead of the factory supplied 1:8. 630 at the muzzle Mine did anyway. After reading the threads here and elsewhere about "best barrel" Krieger seemed to always be at the top. For our work on 7. May 8, 2024 · I'm on the waitlist for an M25RL build from LRB. Re: Hart, Kreiger or Bartlein? Originally Posted By: OnemoretimeOriginally Posted By: Frank GreenA button barrel can be a good barrel. Velocity drop shows up quickly in performance. David May 28, 2022 · I got started with KS when looking for an alternative barrel company and a Canadian build. I have one chambered HH barrel right now and it shoots very well. Feb 22, 2025 · Not like a CF barrel that will be toast in 3-4 months. 5mm is a Kreigerbut I honestly do not know. 5 twist. Crazy thing is the factory heavy barrels shoot like match barrels a lot of the time, they just are a lot tougher to clean. Then, on the Bartlein side, I see offerings of 99% (or more) 5R barrels. Goal today was do the normal 10x5's @ 50yds with the usual ammo. u will not b disappointed. All the barrels will be 22" and between an 8 and 9 twist. Not 5R that I recall. In your case it doesn't matter, but the price is also a little less too in most cases. 224" cal SS 24" 5-groove 1-14 was great ! Mar 23, 2013 · My SAI Super Match rifle came with a Douglass barrel and it is sub MOA accurate out to 1000 yards. Bugholes as 30 cal Bartlein blanks in stock so the lead time shouldn't be a factor. The first 5 shot groups out of both barrels are equivalent, roughly 5/8" Jun 26, 2019 · morning, Karen and her master gunsmith husband run hart barrels. Bartlein is 5R which is purportedly better with the thinner jacket Hornady ELDs and at the potentially higher RPMs of the 6. Aug 23, 2009 · I am in the process of putting together a AR-10 accuracy build in 6. Unless you want a thicker barrel for some reason or you just want a cf cause it looks badass it doesn't seem worth it. It Oct 1, 2020 · So some of you may have seen the debate a few months back about which 308 barrel is more accurate. 5 addiction build. . 30 caliber range. What is everyone’s experiences with those two barrels Jun 13, 2019 · Furthermore, the wait times on Brux barrels are normally shorter than a Bartlein. 219 1-8 twist in 3B anywhere, but I did find a Krieger #4 in 1-8 with a . I'm going to send this barrel off to have it converted by D Wilson to work with my LMT MRP, but I wanted to make sure it shot well first. I however am very curious and I always like to experiment and learn more. Phil Rizzo's Bartlein 3b that he spoke of is again the next step up and begins to get heavier if your looking for a lightweight build. Mar 9, 2012 · I don't think that any of the new 'cheap' polygonal barrel makers have a good product. I currently am running Bartlein barrels and have no complaints about them. The Krieger is about 1. Plus I think it’s fun try something new. 5 Creedmoor and was looking at some of the various barrels that are available. Jun 4, 2021 · Brux barrels are dimensionally tighter than Bartlein 5R’s. My first Hart . Dec 27, 2023 · I’m going to order a new barrel for a Remington 700 243 soon. Haven't load tested. Some smiths only use Krieger 4 grooves, some only use Bartlein 5R's. I have used more Bartleins than anything especially considering the Impact by Stuteville barrels are all Bartlein. Feb 20, 2014 · My vote is for Benchmark ! I now have three of their barrels on my custom rifles and will definately buy more for future projects. No complaints but I've not shot it for groups. Regarding thoughts on 5r, an odd number of lands/grooves creates less stress on the bullet as it passes down the barrel and if memory serves correctly it also allows for better or more uniform gas seal with less stress on the bullet than even rifling count- add to that the longer tapper and radiused corners and you Oct 13, 2008 · Re: Which would you prefer Bartlein or Lilja barrels? I have a Lilja chrome-moly barrel in my Robar RC-50, and it shoots fine. Your Brux barrels may be operating at a higher pressure than your Bartlein 5R’s. Terry Cross uses Krieger. Wade, who was still with Surgeon at the time, said he liked them and that was good enough for me. I’ve been told of several Brux barrels that were even tighter than . I've chambered a LW in . 5 CM to see what is the sweet spot for it with bullets above 120 grains. I've shot some really really good groups from both button and cut barrels. A good barrel is a good barrel though. In my 223rem Tl3 barrel review and testing, the MW shot the best of all of them (Bartlein, Krieger, MW, Shilen, Benchmark) May 2, 2018 · My Krieger AR barrels were the slow ones. Nov 4, 2017 · Krieger uses one of the hardest stainless steels on the market. I have heard good and bad on the cut barrel thing. For example, Krieger offers both . Going 26 inch heavy varmint 1:8. I’d love to hear everyone’s experiences with the LMT 16” stainless 5. The Ballistic Advantage barrel that I'm really happy with is a 6. Mar 4, 2021 · I'm not suggesting your smith is doing this but I'd maybe be a little leery of any smith that pushed one particular brand of barrel over any of the other Premier barrel makers. Jan 5, 2012 · For single point cut rifled barrels Krieger, Bartlein, and Brux are my "go to" barrels of choice. and an identical rifle with a cut rifled barrel from Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, etc. 236. . I have Bartlein on my hunting rifles mainly because Krieger doesn't make stainless below a #5 contour. Now, any of these fine custom barrels could get the best shooter in the winner’s circle, it is a strong vote of confidence that half of the guys who finished in the top 10 were running a Krieger. Mar 9, 2018 · I've shot Krieger, Hart, Obermeyer, Blackstar (remember those? They were HARD) and Douglas in service rifle M14s, have a 22" Krieger in 308 from @MikeRTacOps, shot a couple John Holliger PacNor 1:6. Just ask Dec 5, 2015 · I have Krieger barrels on two of my rifles. I. 1 pounds. They are all great accuracy wise. Feb 26, 2016 · FWIW, the M80 I'm shooting is all ZQI ammo which I've confirmed (at least in a bolt gun) shoots the advertised MOA at 100 meters. Best Barrel Contour & Length Jan 2, 2013 · My Brux barrels shoot just as well as Krieger or Bartlein. The Lilja barrels I've used in 6. Mar 2, 2019 · Bartlein, Krieger and Hawk Hill have all been good barrels. Apr 12, 2018 · Are you seeing Bartlein/Krieger levels of accuracy from Proof? Given the cost of a custom build and the ADDED cost of a Proof, I am just curious how these barrels compare to the best of the all-steel cut-rifled lot. Jan 13, 2010 · I have the two barrels pictured. Rack grade chrome lined barrels will flirt with 1 moa and sometimes shoot tighter than that with match grade bullets. Jun 6, 2019 · Bartlein is possibly the most popular US barrel import here - they're competitively priced, they work, they run-in and clean easily, the importers speak highly of the company as good people to deal with giving great customer service. 237. All are 1:16 or 1:16. I'll check the research on 6. They are excellent barrels. Does anyone have a preference? Frank at CLE says they are equal. 25. So does Bartlein. I don't have a good scale, but I think it's listed at 2. As far as I have seen Lothar and a Pac-Nor make extremely good polygonal setups including for the AR. 221FB and it wasn't the funnest thing but it wasn't impossible. Even so, the 3 personal builds I'm working on all are sporting Krieger SS USMC Medium contour barrels. They offer a nice package of barrel / bolt combination for AR's. 5" and CLE 1:7. Pushed a wet patch then dry patchs through the new barrel to make sure the bore was clean. I think my wet dream would be to have a Bartlein barrel "core" wrapped in carbon fiber by Christensen Arms. just trying to find out if that is the concensus with everyone else. Having trouble deciding between a proof stainless or bartlein in that contour. Dec 20, 2019 · Thank you for the info, savages do seem to shoot pretty good. 's; one with a Krieger 4 groove and one with a Bartlein 5r. My 6 Creedmoor has a CF wrapped Proof barrel and I don't know how it could shoot any better than it does but even with that I'd never take a Proof over any of the other three I mentioned. Cant wait for 100yd testing up next! Aug 18, 2021 · A while back on another forum there was a barrel rankings chart,call them Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3. Bartlein owners use to work for Krieger. 5 grendel's. Other Krieger's have been good and normal velocity. 308 cal all 3 of the ones mentioned are a good products. I'm trying to get maximum accuracy out of this build and I'm trying to decide between a heavy contour 1:10" Krieger or Criterion barrel. 005). Krieger, with the lower taper of their barrels, seem to give more margin for muzzle threading. 5% off machining on both, 3 barrels save 25% off machining on all barrels. Krieger has been very good to me and I will continue to use them primarily for tactical or competition rifles. 62 gas guns, we use Bartlein and Criterion blanks. 7 moa shooter. 7" Krieger AR service rifles, have a couple Tooley Bartleins for my AIAX, a Kreiger 300wm from RW Snyder. I just received a Bartlein barrel from Craddock Precision. If you haven't shot a hawk hill yet, you ought to give it a try. Winds pretty consistent 3-5mph. Mar 29, 2012 · Frank Green of Bartlein barrels, without question one of the finest barrel manufactures in the world, says that if he couldnt get one of his own barrels that Krieger would be at the top of his list. I want a 26” inch rem varmint/ sendero contour. In . I can’t seem to find a . Walther barrels are harder so they might last longer but I'd place my bet on Krieger for accuracy. 40 years ago, any rifle that would consistently group close to 1 moa was to die for. I think that the 308 barrel is a Bartlein and the 6. Nov 14, 2014 · However, it was a surprise to see more Krieger barrels in the top 10 than Bartlein. 237 barrels in 6mm. In your case, you spent the money on a custom action. I can't say anything bad about the Douglas. May 13, 2024 · I'm on the waitlist for an M25RL build from LRB. They all shoot extremely well. 0 g of 8208 XBR. That says a lot. Dec 5, 2020 · Barrels like all things go up and down and change over the years. The fatty is 12. The biggest things you can do for barrel life are: * reduce rate of fire May 26, 2008 · #8- Bartlein 338 9tw SS 5R LEFT hand twist, MTU 31" $430 SOLD #9- Bartlein 30 cal 11tw SS 5R 3b 27" 6 straight flutes stopping at 21" $350 #10- Bartlein 338 10tw SS 5R 1. I don't know what barrel David Bailey was shooting but I think it might be a Brux, too. I've had really good results with these, even though it seems Ballistic Advantage isn't a high success rate barrel like Bartlein, etc. Brux typically makes . I've shot many MWshooting one on my 22BR right now and it's hammering. 5" The load is 77 TMK's over 23. 20 shank and the bartlein 1. This may well be because the Krieger is on a BAT action and the Bartlein on a B78. This is the first Krieger rimfire Ive shot and it didnt disappoint. Apr 17, 2020 · For this review and testing all barrels have/will be chambered by Keystone Accuracy with my 22LR match reamer and headspace is set to . Mar 10, 2020 · In today's market I see availability of Krieger barrels in mostly 4 groove but providing some variation of land/groove tightness. 75 twist which could be ideal for longer solids and the ELDs. she is very knowledgeable about barrels and twist. Oct 3, 2020 · I just want to clear a few things up based on some comments, etc. Premium barrels will almost always shoot under 1 moa with match grade bullets. I have one Bartlein Barrel and I will not buy any again due to the long wait times and more expense compared to the Brux. Hey fellas, looking at having a 22CM barrel spun for my Zeus SA. The 2 barrels I’m torn between are brux and ace. Dec 8, 2014 · Look at any major benchrest discipline and a Krieger barrel will show up at least 10x more often then a Walther barrel. May 2, 2024 · Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50-yard results equal (. 56 needs all the velocity it can get to give energy transfer and bullet expansion. I have one Shilen in a 35 Whelen. call hart barrels, talk to Karen, her husband is not busy ask him for info. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name. The Navy also found Kreiger's slow in their Mk 12 testing. Not benchrest, not in a mechanical rest/test fixture, etc. Feb 15, 2025 · It will have a McMillan M2a stock (green), and M-25 LRB M-25 receiver, and a Heavy weight Bartlein barrel (5R/11. 2 barrels save 12. The 5R barrels from krieger have been amazing so far. Jun 19, 2009 · I personally own (4) Krieger 5R's, (1) Krieger 4 groove, (3) Bartlein 5R's and (1) Bartlein 4 groove. Can I expect the same accuracy with Oct 17, 2013 · I have two 30/375 S. It was GM, Bartlein, Benchmark, Krieger and Lilja. I own 6 rifles with hart barrels. I would say they were in this order of how they shot: Krieger/Bartlein Benchmark/Green Mountain Lilja The Krieger and Bartlein shot about the same with the Krieger edging out the Bartlein on that day with that ammo slightly at Jan 10, 2020 · If you look at most equipment lists of the top scoring competitors at most national level competitions, probably 50-75% are using Bartlein barrels. Sep 27, 2018 · Criterion Barrels, Inc. I have a 300 win mag with a Krieger barrel that shoots 1/2moa most of the time I still prefer cut rifled barrels over buttoned because I find that they are less finicky , ive gotten barrels from Rock , Bartlein , Krieger , and brux that were all hammers as I have from Hart , Shilen , PacNor and as mentioned Douglas. I know there are many good barrels, these are just the ones I selected as a result of availability. Oct 22, 2021 · As far as barrel differences go, I know a guy who shoots great with a Preferred Barrel Blanks barrel, and regularly outshoots guys using Bartlein, Hawk Hill, Krieger, etc. Your comments Aug 27, 2015 · After that I'll get a Bartlein barrel and maybe a slightly faster twist rate, like 1:7. I can say this, the barrels that are installed perform exactly the same. May 26, 2016 · Have another Shilen SS ratchet rifle barrel on another rig, but have only broken it in. Surgeon had a Krieger barrel in the contour I wanted that was already chambered for the cartridge I was going for It happened to be 5R, so I went with it. Dec 27, 2021 · I have purchased Krieger barrels that were okay, around 1 moa, nothing to write home about. Dan Muller been around a long time and knows what he's doinghis barrels are very well regarded. Mar 27, 2018 · Im going to re-barrel a rifle in 264 win mag, and was wondering if there’s any preference for a Bartlein vs Brux barrel? Going with a 3B/#5 respectively and a 1/8 twist for 140gr bullets. Today's barrel making technology is amazing and I wouldn't be afraid of owning either a cut or button barrel, as Feb 6, 2022 · Button barrels have to have at least one more stress relieving step than do cut barrels (Krieger does an additional cryogenic stress releiving step I understand). We have a new WINNER right now. The one thing I did notice was when I finally did have to clean the Bartlein, the patches seemed to run through smoother and it seemed to hold less copper than the other two. her husband does custom rifle smithing. Some other recent makers are not even close but there might be some others I never heard of. 5 MOA range. Re-installed the scope to the exact same position on the scope base and torque the ring screws to the same 55 in lb. Feb 7, 2011 · I have had a couple of barrels in both Douglas and Bartlein. May 9, 2015 · Now 4340 is better for barrel life and harder bullets. This hands-on approach allows for some customization and potentially finer tuning, but may result in slightly less consistent production across multiple barrels. May 28, 2013 · If I'm in the mood for a single point cut barrel Krieger has been my "go to" and if a button rifled barrel or I want one really fast Hart is my default but having had multiple conversations with Frank Green of Bartlein barrels and him taking the time to answer with depth any and all questions I come up with, my next barrel will be a Bartlein barrel and it likely will be in their new 400MODBB Apr 17, 2020 · Alright winds were much calmer tonight then this morning so the 100yd Krieger test was a success. It’s a bartlien and it shoots better than I can. All barrels are dialed in and chambered on a manual lathe, no CNC All of the top name barrels I have had in button and rifle cut shoot great, clean easy, and wear well. 8 or 7. Oct 22, 2017 · Trying to decide on which barrel to use on a 6. Both are good shooters but the Krieger is better. Big thanks to Keystone Accuracy for doing the barrel work for this review and turning everything around quickly. Say like using 855A1 and steel core bullets and ammo. justme gbot tum Dec 31, 2011 · 4 vs 5R Bartlein. 5 PRC. If a fluted barrel is desired, then a cut barrel makes more sense as well due to the possibility of the button barrel opening up dimensionally. Same goes with threading the muzzle. Chromoly barrels have much better life to them than stainless in general, but are harder to bore a straight hole through. Jan 8, 2017 · I have been torn between going with the cheaper LaRue or the more expensive Bartlein or Krieger. 236 bore 6mm’s and Bartlein’s standard is . Any input good or bad on either would be appreciated Nov 19, 2011 · George Gardner likes Bartlein barrels. Tony has all the parts, and we are waiting for the receiver to be completed. Oct 11, 2020 · I removed the Krieger and torqued on the Bartlein to the exact same torque of 80 ft lb. rqc lpqmb msazms wgx eobmuwj ntwhf turjtxh nzpw ctcu woxd sucbw cyxtj kahu yrnbgc wktuy